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Through the newsletter, I’ve had the chance to speak with remarkable scientists from around the world. Many of these conversations have offered valuable insights into how people build careers in plant pathology.

I’m incredibly excited to bring you today’s conversation, a one-on-one with Thaís Boufleur, a professor at the University of São Paulo, and leader of the Laboratório de Manejo Sustentável de Doenças.

I had the pleasure of meeting Thaís several years ago during her time at the Australian National University. We’ve since crossed paths at ICPP, and continued to collaborate on myrtle rust research. Most recently, she agreed to be interviewed for the Robigalia newsletter.

This was a conversation I drew enormous inspiration and motivation from, and my key takeaways were:

1. Embrace discomfort as a growth strategy

Thaís deliberately chose new pathogen systems and techniques with each career stage, viewing each challenge as essential for development rather than a risk to avoid.

2. Build skills beyond the bench early

Thaís systematically developed competencies in teaching, grant writing, and administration during her PhD and postdoctoral training, skills that made her competitive for a professorship at a young age.

3. Commit fully without a backup plan

Her "no Plan B" philosophy meant working unfunded for six months and maintaining laser focus on her goal of becoming a professor, demonstrating that sometimes success requires closing off other options to channel all energy toward a singular vision.

4. Cultivate support networks as actively as research collaborations

From mentors who taught her how to teach, to a partner who visited her across continents, to supervisors who gave her opportunities beyond her experience level, Thaís credits her success to actively nurturing both professional and personal support systems that sustained her through the challenges.

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There is no Plan B

Two years. That's all it took for Thaís Regina Boufleur to leap from postdoc to professor at one of Brazil's leading agricultural universities, a transition that typically takes researchers a decade or more. Now, in her early 30s, she leads a thriving lab of ten researchers, has already secured major funding, and is pioneering sustainable plant disease management research in Brazil. Her secret? An unwavering focus that some might call extreme.

"I never had a plan B in my life."

This singular vision crystallised during her master's degree, transforming an initially uncertain student into one of the youngest professors in her department. While many early-career researchers hedge their bets with backup plans, Thaís took a radically different approach.

"I decided that between PhD and funding for postdoc I have six months and I will not try anything in between. Just give me six months and I will get it. If I don't, then I will try something else, but I will not think about that now because I cannot change my focus."

A passion born from curiosity

Her laser focus wasn't born from certainty but from its opposite. As an undergraduate student in biotechnology, Thaís had been deeply unhappy, feeling trapped by what seemed like limited options.

"I never was one of these students that know what they want to do. When the time came that I had to choose an undergrad course, I was not happy with any of the options because all of them seemed too limited."

The turning point came through a plant pathology internship.

"I just came across a plant pathology internship with a professor and I was like, yeah, let's try that. And I started there and I never stopped."

What began as an escape route became a calling. Moving from a tiny city of 4,000 people to pursue her studies, she threw herself into internships, doing far more hours than required, participating in tutoring programmes, and absorbing everything she could about plant pathology.

A moment of clarity and a leap of faith

During her master's work on Phytophthora in capsicum at the University of São Paulo's agricultural campus in Piracicaba, something clicked.

"When I did my master I realised what I wanted to do and that would be to become a professor. As soon as I realised that, I was in plant pathology and I really enjoyed this subject and I'm here since then."

But knowing the destination didn't make the journey straightforward. Thaís deliberately chose challenge over comfort at every turn.

After completing microscopy-focused work during her master's, she pushed to work with genomics and transcriptomics during her PhD, despite having no experience. Her supervisor, Professor Nelson Massola, was sceptical.

"The professor was like, you don't have any experience, and I was like, I can learn, I mean we can learn. I would do my best to learn because I really want to do something different over the PhD."

The gamble paid off. Working with Colletotrichum on soybeans, she collaborated with international researchers, learned cutting-edge techniques, and even discovered multiple Colletotrichum species in the field, leading to comparative genomics studies.

"It was a challenge but I really learned a lot during this experience."

Challenge accepted; a new pathogen and a new set of skills

Her appetite for challenge only grew. For her postdoc, she switched to myrtle rust, a biotrophic pathogen on trees with a notoriously complex genome.

"I don't like the comfort zone. I really enjoy a challenge and when I finished the PhD I was like, I need to learn something else."

This decision meant working unfunded for several months, testing the support of family and friends who worried about her lack of a backup plan.

Thaís wasn't just collecting diverse research experiences. She was executing a methodical strategy to prepare for a professorship in Brazil, where academics must excel in five areas: research, teaching, extension, administration, and securing funding.

"Since I started my master's, I tried to go through all of that,"

Thaís sought out every opportunity to build complementary skills. She learned teaching from Professor Armando Bergamin, who became a crucial mentor.

"He taught me not only about science but also how to think about science and how to interact with people and how to think about science not like in your bubble. He also taught me how to teach. Over all my master and PhD I was with him in the classroom following undergrad courses."

She gained grant-writing experience by helping her postdoc supervisor craft funding applications.

"I helped my supervisor to write his last grants that the lab had over this time. I didn't have any official credit outside my lab about working on these projects, but this really made the difference when I became a professor because in my first half year as a professor I already got a project funded."

She learned administration by helping run the lab during her postdoc. Each skill was deliberately acquired, even when it meant working beyond expectations.

"You need to work more than you're expected to work if you want to get there at some point. No one will ask you to do that. You need to look—can I help on that?—and you start to go in these ways and then you just get much more experience."

The international experiences in Spain and Australia added another layer to her preparation, building her network and exposing her to different research cultures. These connections would prove invaluable later, with collaborations continuing even after she became a professor.

The step into professorship

When a position for sustainable plant disease management opened at her university, a new research line in Brazil, Thaís was ready. The selection process itself was a marathon. Applicants had to write a comprehensive personal and professional curriculum explaining every career choice.

"For me it took like two months to write and I was writing it while I was in Australia. It was a very challenging document to write because you need to go personal and it's not easy to go personal on your professional choices."

The week-long evaluation included a written exam on an unknown topic with just 24 hours to prepare, a teaching demonstration for undergraduates, and interviews covering all five areas of academic responsibility.

"You don't sleep for a week, you don't eat because you don't really have time to do that. You spend a lot of time studying and then you go through this very intensive week."

The intensity of the selection process took its toll. After securing the position, Thaís found herself in and out of the hospital for weeks as her immune system crashed from the months of preparation and weeks without proper rest.

Yet even this setback couldn't dim her satisfaction.

She had achieved her goal.

Achievement on the back of a solid support network

The personal cost of this focused pursuit extended beyond physical exhaustion. Moving from her small hometown at age 20, spending months abroad away from her partner, and prioritising career over comfort required understanding from those around her.

"You need to sacrifice a lot of your personal life in order to grow on your professional life when you choose this academic path.”

Her partner visited her in Spain and Australia, her family supported her unconditionally despite being the first generation to pursue higher education, and her supervisors provided mentorship beyond academic guidance.

"I always came across nice people to work with and I think that makes all the difference. Of course I worked through my path, but it was much easier because I had everyone supporting me—my family, my partner, but also my supervisors."

Growing to a lab of 10 in two years

Now, two years into her professorship, Thaís leads a lab of ten researchers focused on sustainable disease management, working both on myrtle rust on Eucalyptus and soybean diseases. Brazil is the world's largest soybean producer, making her research directly relevant to national agricultural priorities.

She's securing funding, publishing papers, and building the research programme she envisioned. But perhaps most importantly, she's passing forward the mentorship she received.

"I'm trying to be as supportive to my students as I can. I meet with them every week to try to understand what's happening, how can I help with discussing the results of the research but also if they need help in some personal life because most of them are like me, away from everyone."

Her approach to mentoring reflects lessons learned from her own journey.

"I'm trying to be in a position that I'm close to the students, not in a position that they respect me because they fear me. I want them to respect me because they like me."

For those considering a similar path, Thaís doesn't sugarcoat the challenges but remains encouraging.

"I know that the path in science is challenging. You will need to do lots of sacrifices, personally speaking, professionally speaking. But at the end, I think it's worth it if that's your dream."

Thaís‘ story demonstrates that success in academia isn't just about brilliance or luck.

It's about maintaining focus when working without funding, embracing discomfort to grow, building skills beyond the bench, and nurturing the relationships that sustain you through the challenges.

For those truly called to this path, as Thaís discovered, every challenge becomes part of the journey towards making that singular vision a reality.

Thaís is open to taking on students, noting that all courses are conducted in Portuguese. Be sure to connect with her on LinkedIn and follow her updates on Instagram.

Watch the full interview with Thaís on YouTube 👇

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